Comments on: Story Goals: Are They Slowing Your Story’s Pace? https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/ Helping writers become bestselling authors Mon, 18 Sep 2023 08:52:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: πŸ–‹ Writing Links Round Up 7/22-7/26 – B. Shaun Smith https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-656525 Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:08:52 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-656525 […] Story Goals: Are They Slowing Your Story’s Pace? […]

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By: Five Links 7/5/19 Loleta Abi | Loleta Abi Author & Book Blogger https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-653064 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:09:20 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-653064 […] β€œA few weeks ago, I shared my Resident Writing Coach guest post over at Writers Helping Writers and talked about how weak or passive goals in our story can hurt us. Then we dug more […]

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By: Author Inspiration and This Week’s Writing Links – Staci Troilo https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650869 Fri, 14 Jun 2019 05:02:30 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650869 […] Passive Story Goals | Writers Helping Writers […]

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By: Jami Gold https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650802 Thu, 13 Jun 2019 15:43:36 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650802 In reply to Dani Harper.

Hi Dani,

I just want to let you know that I did write more about passive goals and overcoming them in my post today. πŸ˜‰

Check here for the post. Hope that helps, and thanks again for the great question and idea!

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By: Jami Gold https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650763 Thu, 13 Jun 2019 02:28:38 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650763 In reply to John White.

Hi John,

From your description, it doesn’t sound passive. He’s actively wanting something to change and is trying to get others to do something. He’s not just content with the status quo. That’s all active.

Him getting even more active with the external plot is all bonus. πŸ˜‰ Hope that helps!

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By: John White https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650697 Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:25:03 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650697 I could use just a little clarification.

Man is estranged from family. Finally gets head together, gets them to agree to a reunion. From how I see it, he wants to change, not be such a jerk, and be something he should have been years ago. But something big gets in the way. I don’t know, an asteroid hits, aliens, world war III…something that puts the family in jeopardy, needs to save them. Does so, say around the mid point, then he gets mad and moves out of survival mode and becomes a part of or THE solution to the overall problem, with the usual ups and downs towards the end. Is that beginning passive????

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By: Jami Gold https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650619 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:43:33 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650619 In reply to Victoria Marie Lees.

Thank you so much, Victoria! Glad I could help. πŸ™‚

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By: Victoria Marie Lees https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650617 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:07:25 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650617 Great post. Thanks for the clear and concise examples. Have a beautiful week!

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By: Jami Gold https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650604 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:24:02 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650604 In reply to Dani Harper.

Hi Dani,

Yes, our characters often begin with passive goals because most people don’t think they need (or want) to change. Change is hard! πŸ˜‰

From a *story* perspective, as you surmised, we have to make sure we’re using the story, situations, obstacles, stakes, etc. to push them to take the step toward change. From a *writing* perspective, we probably want to have ideas for what the active goal will eventually be so we can write toward that problem they’ll need to overcome and give foreshadowing hints of those bigger issues.

As I said in my reply to Angela, the problem comes in if we THINK our characters’ goals are perfectly fine (because on the surface, they often *seem* fine) and don’t push the story or them toward an active goal.

As far as your question about how to handle a story where overcoming the adherence to the passive goal IS the active goal… Great question! It might take a longer answer than just a comment though, so I’ll see about answering that on my blog on this Thursday. πŸ˜‰

Thanks for the comment — and the post idea! πŸ˜€

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By: Jami Gold https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650602 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:11:11 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650602 In reply to ANGELA ACKERMAN.

Hi Angela,

Absolutely! As you said, our characters often start with passive goals, and that’s perfectly fine. πŸ™‚

The problem comes in if we don’t use the story to push them to grow and change — like with the stakes you mentioned — or if we don’t push ourselves enough to question them and know where the story’s going next, so we end up with a stalled draft.

This was a fun post to write, as it gave *me* a deeper understanding of this issue too. LOL! I hope it’s helpful to people. πŸ™‚

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By: ANGELA ACKERMAN https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650597 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:19:17 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650597 GREAT post, Jami! I think a lot of characters start out with passive goals because they are fighting to stay in their comfort zone out of fear of the unknown…which is why it’s important we add stakes and really force them to adjust their goals and drive the story forward!

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By: Dani Harper https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/06/story-goals-are-they-slowing-your-storys-pace/#comment-650596 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:06:36 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=35607#comment-650596 Can a character BEGIN with a passive goal of avoiding something and then grow over time to actively dealing with it and embracing a bigger, more life-changing goal?

Perhaps a former soldier with untreated PTSD might invest heavily in just “maintaining” day to day, with his whole goal being to avoid anything that would disturb the status quo, to keep his life level and unchanging. Unwanted events could occur to coax him into choosing to make changes and want more, until he eventually takes on a larger and more meaningful goal.

How would you handle a story where the passive goal IS the problem to overcome?

(PS – love your blog!)

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